Wilhelm Thie-Twin Diatonics-25,2


Conversations with Pat Missin:

These twin harps look like none of the Thie harps in Whiteman.  The closest are the diatonic 1896 page 455), but that is a single row, only ten holes. Sorry about the blurry photos, I drank too much tea today. The years are all 1876. The harmonica sounds very nice for such light weight and old (?) harp. A few holes do not work very well at all tho.

I found this fascinating post on Wilhelm Thie from Haffner:


I have a question about naming harmonicas. I want to put the right reed count and the right hole count on my id’s. Would this one, for instance, be called a 32 hole, 32 reed? Or 16 reeds. I think the reeds are every other hole but there are 8 in each row.

What makes a tremolo, a tremolo?  does it have to have holes on both sides?

As always thank you for your vast harp knowledge. You will have top billing on the site. lol.

It is absolutely disgusting outside. I won;t even deposit my checks. Can’t breathe.




Falling behind a little with my email and way, way too hot.

First off, as an Englishman, I need to point out that there is no such
thing as too much tea!

Not seen this particular harmonica before, either in real life or in
old catalogs. It’s obviously post-1876 and probably pre-1900. Thie
were one of the big companies in their day, but things all started to
fall apart around 1900. The factory got sold to Koestler around WWI
and I think he continued to make some under the Thie name, but by this
point, Hohner were really dominating the market.
Does this page clear up the questions you had about the
different harmonica types:


If not, ask away.



I have been waiting for a harp that was possibly made before the turn of the century. (Love that phrase)

Sorry for my harp ignorance. Though in my defense they are a very confusing musical instrument except for playing. Which is what I like. :-}

As far as the Viennese Richter note system goes, you should read the discussions on Harp-L. I’ll try to find the one on the Richter scale. OMG. Those guys are amazingly musicians. Pretty much everyone there plays chromatic I think, but often discussions pop up about everything. I can’t read them all and the site is ancient which is the only problem. They should switch to a forum.


That was the most AWFUL game I ever saw.  ugh. you must be an Englishman. lol. It was too upsetting for me to finish out the match. I blew the living room after Germany made their third goal.

I am beginning to believe that Harmonicas are the most under researched, complicated, unusual musical instrument out there.  Just the story of How Hohner Ate All Harp Manufacturers would be fascinating. Maybe we should write a screenplay about Hohner.  Is the harmonica the only wind instrument you can blow and draw from so you can almost breathe while playing?

7-1 isn’t something that should ever happen in a professional soccer
match. That said, as an Englishman, I should really have been
disappointed that it wasn’t Germany losing 7-1.

I agree that harmonicas are amazingly under researched. Part of the
problem is that for the last century and a half, they have been rather
commonplace. Nobody bothers looking at the commonplace, especially the
inexpensive commonplace. I first starting gathering all this
information together when I realised that I couldn’t just go to the
library and find answers to my questions about the instrument. The
last couple of decades, the situation has definitely improved, but
there’s still a ton of misinformation out there.

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